Editers note:This writer is not an Australian we acknowledge that a lot of the things she talks about did not happen here in the same way that said Feminism is a international movement so her points still stand.
That’s right, we touch on it now and then a little bit, but no one wants to go all the way, so let’s just get it over with so we don’t have to deal with Nazi analogies ever again, okay?
From Wikipedia: Godwin’s law (or Godwin’s Rule of Nazi Analogies) is an Internet Adage asserting that “As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1” — that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
Yes, we’re going there today. We’re going to compare Feminism to Nazism, and cover how this is both good, but also bad.
So let’s start with a bit of a simplified history lesson on these two movements, as they had actually somewhat similar roots. It’s amazing how hate movements start off very eerily similar to one another.
So let’s break this down by the beginnings of where these movements got their start, shall we?
The Early Days
In the beginning, there was WW1, and thusly followed the Bitchslap of Versailles. This was a treaty to end the first world war, which was basically one big clusterfuck of various treaties in the first place. Everyone was allied with everyone else, one tiny country’s retarded dictator died, one Archduke Franz Ferdinand, because he was a fuckwit who was assassinated and was sewn into his uniform that his doctor was afraid to cut open to perform surgery, so yeah… great starting point.
What happened though, was that at Versailles, the French were pissy about the whole thing and tried to lay pretty much all responsibility on Germany at the time. The USA’s president at the time, Woodrow Wilson, surprisingly was the voice of reason here. He basically went “Whooooa, slow down guys, what the fuck? No, seriously. What. The. Fuck. You don’t really want to do this, do you? This is going to fuck Germany over hardcore… you’re going to make a lot of innocent people suffer on petty vengeance, and it’s going to bite you in the ass.”
The reply he got from France was basically “Non, ve simply vhant to slap zhem vith zhe velvet glove… filled with a brick.” – except they did the overly cheesy French accent better than I can in text.
The English prime minister at the time, David Lloyd George essentially went “Oh, right-o thar, ol’ chap, can’t do, sorry, election year. The voters want blood and I want to be re-elected. You’re totally right, ol’ boy, but what can you do?” and went along with the bullshit anyway.
And yea, thusly so did the great depression fuck over Germany even worse than everyone else. Literally, the currency at the time was falling so fast that a law was passed that workers would be paid twice a day in cash because it wouldn’t be worth half as much by the next day. People had to cart out wheelbarrows full of money to buy bread because the paper it was written on was quite literally worth more than the money itself. Note that was wheelbarrows, as in plural. Shit was crazy, yo.
And this is the environment that Nazism was born into. One of excessive weakness, hatred, and fear. The government was falling apart, and political parties turned more into gangs than anything else… and the Nazi’s were one of the biggest gangs out there. Their methodology of getting elected was simply to have their political opponents “have mysterious accidents”. Great guys, really. We know how it goes.
When they were the only stabilizing force around… people figured, hell, why not, may as well vote for them, they’re the only assholes left.
It was here that the Nazi’s gained a great deal of political power, their violent streak, and a massive sense of entitlement, a la “We deserve better than this bullshit. No, the world owes us better than this bullshit.” These were the seeds of destruction as we’ll see in a moment.
So what happened with Feminism? Where are the early roots it has in society? Didn’t it just magically pop up in the 1970’s?
No, no it’s been around a lot longer than that, I’m afraid. Closer to 150 years, actually, but there’s a starting point here that’s important when it got the first big head of steam.
Let’s go back to 1914. World War 1 and the White Feather Campaign, overseen by one Mrs Humphrey Ward, a well-known author at the time.
The White Feather Campaign took root in England where women would attach white feathers to men not in uniform to shame them into going off to die in the ditches of trench warfare. The women had no fear of being drafted, and shame was a wonderful tool to get the men to go off to war.
This was one of the first bits of entitlement that the movement showed – the capacity for women to tell men what to do when they were at zero risk themselves. The men really were shamed, and did enlist in the service, showing that the women had the power to send men to their deaths with just a word and a feather. Women have no power? Women need no power – they had men to do shit for them.
In 1917, over in the USA, about 900,000 men were drafted for WW1, all the way down to 18 years of age. They challenged it, said it was unconstitutional, and the supreme court basically said “Fuck you, you get to vote, so you have to fight. This is how this shit works.” on January 7, 1918. Despite that the actual drafting age was lower than the age to vote. Meaning boys who couldn’t vote could get drafted because they could vote… except they couldn’t. Right…
Of course, on June 4th, 1920, women were given the right to vote too… sans the obligation for being drafted. Huh. So the only reason men were allowed to vote was because they could be killed off on a whim, but women are allowed to vote because… tits?
Seriously, men could be sent to war at 18, but not vote until 21 in the USA, despite that was the excuse for why they could vote. It wasn’t until June 22, 1970 that they finally got to vote at the same age they could be told to go kill themselves. Fun fun fun.
These were the seeds of entitlement that the earliest branches of Feminism were founded upon. Women’s suffrage was based on the idea that women deserved to vote because they were women, but men deserved to vote because they paid for it in blood, except men could pay for it in blood without the right to vote, so it was kind of lopsided, there.
Trust me, I’m all for women being able to vote. I rather like being able to vote myself, and without that movement, I couldn’t. Except… I also stress that the reasoning for why women could vote, while men aged 18-21 couldn’t, was absolute, total bullshit.
Either everyone should have had the right to vote without being conscripted, or no one who couldn’t be conscripted should have had to the right to vote.
Even today, men can still be drafted, and women can’t, but men “pay” for their right to vote with the draft, and women “pay” for their right to vote with… erm… being female…? Huh. Interdastingsk. Funny how Feminism has no problems with that, and in fact, when men bring up that fact, they’re told to shut the fuck up because it’s not a real problem, despite being blatantly sexist.
Regardless, in both cases, these two groups, Nazism and Feminism, began with similar roots – violence towards others than themselves, and a huge assed entitlement complex.
Getting a foothold is the important part for a hate movement. To garner any support, you have to provide something relevant to people. Something that makes them like you. Something that lets them point to all the good you’ve done, and to ignore the bad.
For the Nazi’s, they pulled the German economy out of the shitter, built new roads, set up a powerful infrastructure, rebuilt Germany itself, held the Olympics, and sparked a sense of national pride with the whole Aryan race dealie, by telling the normal citizens that everyone was just jelly of the Germans master race, which is why they were trying to beat them down.
People just loooove to be told how awesome they are, and even more, they love scapegoats. Mmm scapegoats… what better way to make people agree with you than to give them a common enemy, tell them they themselves are awesome, and hand them free stuff? It even lets people ignore that the Nazi’s got into power in the first place by murdering their political opponents! SWEET!
Hey… that sounds familiar…
Oh, right, because that’s what Feminism did, pretty much one for one. Even the murder.
See, in the 1960’s and 1970’s, Feminism wasn’t exactly liked all that much. It was too radical, too violent, and too filled with hatred, and the normal, average person could see that. It was pretty fucked up shit, to be perfectly blunt and honest. Even women didn’t want anything to do with it for the most part.
And then Erin Pizzey created the first domestic violence shelter in the world. She realized quickly on that the women going there were often as violent as the men they were fleeing from, and traced the root quickly back to violent family history. If you have violent parents, you’re probably going to be violent too, and seek out a violent partner. Who would’a thunk?
Well, obviously the Feminists wouldn’t’a thunk that at all. They were absolutely certain it was only men could be evil and vile or violent because… well, they were a hate movement. It’s kind of their schtick.
Within a few short years, they realized that they needed some good PR, a common enemy, a way to tell women how awesome they were, and something good they could use to show they were being a benefit to society instead of a menace.
Oh, hey, that’sssss a nice domestic violence shelter system you have going there… it’d be a shame if anything were to… happen to it, if ya get my drift…
Yeah, they kicked Pizzey out, and were violent as hell. They sent her continual death threats, harassment, and eventually assassinated her dog. The fuck? Yes, you heard me right. They murdered her dog as a warning to her to get the fuck outta Dodge. Nice people, those Feminists. Friendly, loving, non-violent, especially towards their fellow woman!
And in return, they were rewarded with being able to lie to people by telling them that only men are violent (scapegoat), that women are angels who are oppressed (they’re the only ones in need of domestic violence shelters), and that they’re being useful to society (protecting those poor, battered women, ignoring the men in need entirely – after all, if we refuse to build shelters for them, we can point to how there are no men’s shelters so obviously they don’t need them! Sweet deal, huh?)
And thusly so, the hate movement of Feminism got it’s foot in the door, using pretty much the same core tactics as the Nazi’s did. Except the target was men, rather than Jews, and domestic violence shelters instead of the Autobahn, and gender pride instead of racial or national pride.
Even from the start, Feminism was about hatred towards men. This was a well known fact at the time, and it wasn’t until it had the holy trinity of coercion available that it became well liked.
For your average German, they didn’t know what was going on with the Nazi’s. They thought they were fighting back against people who aggressed against them first. They thought that the Jews were simply being deported. They thought that they were fighting a just war, and that they were winning. They knew the average Nazi; they were friends and family, really nice, ordinary, regular people.
The thing is, the management were total assholes.
There were only a few hundred Nazi’s that fucked the whole thing up for everyone. Keep that fact in mind. A few people at the top that put the orders in, a few assholes on the ground level that went along with it and were given the fear to make anyone else back down the moment someone questioned it. A small number that were corrupt and malicious to the core, who were absolutely certain that they were in the right, and that they would change the face of the world.
They slipped their people into the higher ranks of the military and political areas, quietly converted over children throughout the schools and their youth group… they ousted any teachers who wouldn’t teach their propaganda.
And in the end, it worked.
This is where Feminism is right now. It’s right behind the curtain, just barely out of earshot. The average Feminist is a really nice, ordinary, regular person – your friends and family. They think they’re fighting the good fight against tyranny and injustice.
The thing is, the management are still total assholes.
There are only a few hundred to maybe a few thousand Feminists that are truly rotten to the core, much like in Nazism, except that, also like Nazism, they’re the ones calling the shots. They’re the ones making the laws, publishing the horribly mangled studies, teaching bigotry in schools, and converting our youth to their cause, quietly slipping in their own people into the upper echelons of society.
Much like the Nazi’s, they remove teachers who don’t agree with their narrative; most teachers in schools are women, and most of those are Feminists now, especially in universities and colleges, and even more so especially in human resources who handles disputes between students or faculty.
The average Feminist is a good person fighting for what they believe is a good cause, but they’ve been lied to with a powerful propaganda machine. Any time they support Feminism, they support those who create malicious laws, who break down the judicial system and due process, who reinforce bigotry and hatred.
“Not all Feminists are like that.” But enough of them are, and they’re the ones in power.
“Of course they aren’t.” Not all Nazi’s were like that, either. But enough of them were, and they were the ones in power.
The problem isn’t that “All Feminists Are Like That” by any means – it’s a silly notion. The problem is that the funding goes towards projects of hatred. The problem is that support goes towards vile acts and cruel deeds. The problem is that every time someone stands up for the average Feminist, they’re supporting the actions of the ones who are malicious by not holding them under scrutiny.
Right now, Feminism is preparing for it’s concentration camps. It hasn’t set them up yet, but it would just absolutely love to, and is setting up the pieces to make it a reality. And all the while, no one is able to say “Wait, this is bullshit. What the fuck?” because, after all, Not All Feminists Are Like That.
Just the ones that matter are.
The Choir Of Hate
You can’t fight a war without soldiers. You can’t have a hate movement unless it’s supported by the general populace. You can’t create acts of vast malice without complacency…
To the Feminists out there who are reading this, take a look at what you’ve been supporting, and tell me this is what you really want. These are the ones in charge, who make the laws, who power the movement, and who spend the money you support them with. Is this really who you want speaking for you?
“I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honourable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”
~Robin Morgan, Ms. Magazine Editor
“The simple fact is that every woman must be willing to be identified as a lesbian to be fully feminist.”
~National NOW Times, Jan.1988
“Men who are unjustly accused of rape can sometimes gain from the experience.”
~Catherine Comins, Vassar College,
Assistant Dean of Student Life in Time, June 3, 1991, p. 52
“The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it”
~Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in Women and the New Rage, p.67
“To call a man an animal is to flatter him; he’s a machine, a walking dildo.”
“I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig.”
“The more famous and powerful I get the more power I have to hurt men.”
“In a patriarchal society, all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent.”
~Catherine MacKinnon (Prominent legal feminist scholar; University of Michigan, & Yale.)
“The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.”
~Sally Miller Gearhart
“All men are rapists and that’s all they are”
“Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat.”
“I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He’s just incapable of it.”
~Former Congresswoman Barbara Jordan
“I wonder if he [Martin Luther King] really accomplished things, or if he just stirred people up and caused a lot of riots.”
~Melbourne City Councilwoman Pat Poole on her opposition to renaming a street for Martin Luther King
When asked: “You [Greer] were once quoted as saying your idea of the ideal man is a woman with a dick. Are you still that way inclined?”
Dr Greer (denying that she said it): “I have a great deal of difficulty with the idea of the ideal man. As far as I’m concerned, men are the product of a damaged gene. They pretend to be normal but what they’re doing sitting there with benign smiles on their faces is they’re manufacturing sperm. They do it all the time. They never stop. I mean, we women are more reasonable. We pop one follicle every 28 days, whereas they are producing 400 million sperm for each ejaculation, most of which don’t take place anywhere near an ovum. I don’t know that the ecosphere can tolerate it.”
~Germaine Greer, at a Hilton Hotel literary lunch, promoting her book #34; The Change— Women, Aging and the Menopause#34; . From a newsreport dated 14/11/91
“How will the family unit be destroyed? …[T]he demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively. Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare.”
~Roxanne Dunbar in Female Liberation
“We can’t destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage.
~Robin Morgan, from Sisterhood Is Powerful (ed), 1970, p. 537
“We are, as a sex, infinitely superior to men…”
~Elizabeth Stanton, One Woman, One Vote, Wheeler, p. 58
“Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don’t like it, bad luck – and if you get in my way I’ll run you down.”
~Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia. (Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia – 9 February 1996)
“As long as some men use physical force to subjugate females, all men need not. The knowledge that some men do suffices to threaten all women. He can beat or kill the woman he claims to love; he can rape women…he can sexually molest his daughters… THE VAST MAJORITY OF MEN IN THE WORLD DO ONE OR MORE OF THE ABOVE.”
“All men are good for is fucking, and running over with a truck”.
~Statement made by A University of Maine Feminist Administrator, quoted by Richard Dinsmore, who brought a successful civil suit against the University in the amount of $600,000. Richard had protested the quote; was dismissed thereafter on the grounds of harassment; and responded by bringing suit against the University. 1995 settlement.
“If the classroom situation is very heteropatriarchal—a large beginning class of 50 to 60 students, say, with few feminist students—I am likely to define my task as largely one of recruitment…of persuading students that women are oppressed
~Professor Joyce Trebilcot of Washington University, as quoted in Who Stole Feminism: How Women Have Betrayed Women.
You may notice that these names are big… they’re senators, education administrators, authors, congresswomen, and bigots one and all.
You may wonder if the quotes are simply taken out of context; in their actual context, they’re actually far, far worse.
These are the people in power, these are the people who are the rotten 1% of Feminism. They’re the only 1% that needs to be rotten, because they’re the 1% that has both the power, and the desire to abuse that power, and every claim of “Not All Feminists Are Like That” gives them another layer of immunity to criticism.
This is how a hate movement is formed. No one questions it, everyone makes excuses for the ones in power, and everyone feels they’re doing the “right thing” by traveling down the slippery slope in the name of justice, and to help the underdog.
Remember, Nazi Germany was the underdog. They were the ones who were crippled and weak, and they used that to leverage their people into backing them with the promise of a better future.
Feminism has taken the same road, using the same tactics to cover that it’s a hate movement at it’s core.
Godwin’s law only applies if there isn’t an actual direct correlation.
We let the Nazi war machine free because no one would stop it. No one would decry it. No one would stand up and say “This is fucking bullshit, what the fuck!?” – they were silenced with shame, by overt removal, or simply “disappeared.”
The first two of these are already in place. Mansplaining, and removing people from college and university campuses. We’re not too far off from the third – they just need to erode due process a little more on the rape laws, and then they’ll be able to disappear any man they want on a whim. No questions asked, no answers given, merely an accusation is all that will be required. If you think that’s impossible, check the laws – we’re almost there already.
I’ve already covered how Feminism hurts women in other articles, but this is more important than how it affects me personally. This is how it affects everyone, both men and women together.
Remember, the average German, hell, even the average Nazi, was a pretty good person. They believed in what they thought was a just cause, and followed along blindly as the wool of propaganda was pulled over their eyes time and again. They knew the hatred was there, lurking at the corners of their vision, but they let it slide.
The average woman, and the average Feminist, are still good people who honestly believe they’ve been supporting a just cause. We just simply can’t afford to ignore the hatred we see now, lurking in the shadows, just in our peripheral vision. It needs to have the spotlight of criticism directed harshly upon it so it can wither and die in the light, rather than making excuses for the vileness and protecting that malice with a wall of average Feminist human shields.
If we don’t put an end to this now, and embrace actual egalitarianism fast, rather than feeding this hate group… well, there’s a poem that describes this all too well. You may have even heard it before.
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—
And there was no one left to speak for me.
She is a writer, a video game writer, an animator, transgendered, Lithuanian, female, bisexual, and, interestingly enough, legally blind without her glasses. And none of that matters. What matters is she’s passionate about men’s and others’ human rights.
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Been thinking a lot on this front myself, but so nice to see in print…
So funny, my mum’s a big feminist, and she’s also the child of a concentration camp survivor. Irony burns sometimes… I was so used to her rants condemning the entire German populace for complicity in the Holocaust, and claiming if Nazis strode down her street, regardless of the efficacy, she’d stand firm in front of them and tell them what’s what. Yet, all the while…
*sigh* I don’t know which is worse, knowing I can’t do anything about the past, or knowing how little I can do about the present
I’ve noticed that the structure of Feminism is somewhat like that of the Party in “1984.” There is the Inner Party, the infamous 1% mentioned in the above article, the well-supported movers and shakers, the elite with the real juice. They are privy to the strategy and aware of the goals and endgame. But even the Inner Party, in this instance, has an Upper and Lower level, similar to the relationship between the Joint Chiefs of Staff (U.S.) and the subordinate generals. The big-time writers, researchers, functionaries of NGOs, lower-level politicians, et al, belong to the latter group. The Hillary Clintons, Christine Lagardes, Valerie Jarretts, and feminists executives entrenched in the U.N., E.C., and as heads of NGOs are the Upper Level Inner Party.
Likewise, the Outer Party drudges have an upper and lower level: the successful administrators in academia, popular bloggers, trend-setters, heads of human resources, women shelter operators, professionals comprise the former; the campus militants, the activist loud-mouths, and shock-troop grunts populate the lower level. All, of course, never shirk their Two-Minute Hate sessions.
Your everyday, non-political, non-active “nice feminist,” the ones who buy into the lies, but rarely obsess over gender, the masses who keep the brand viable, they are the Proles. They keep the ideology at arm’s length, but nod nonetheless. They profess that the Party represents them, but really couldn’t give a rat’s ass whether we’re fighting Eurasia and allied with Eastasia or vice versa, so are easily lied to. Truth is a pointless luxury; getting on with their lives is not.
Yes, & it’s not a point that is lost on us.
In fact whenever we get news of some new feminist initiative, policy, or even just a speech, we often find ourselves shaking our heads & commenting on how Orwellian Feminism is.
It’s an all too common occurrence I’m afraid. Most of us read 1984 as a warning but feminists, it seems, took it as a guide book.
True, though I wish more people saw the the most blatant and explicit point in the novel: Nothing changes. The middle class rise up and overthrow the upper class in the name of the lower class, and the cycle continues. All my cynical worldview can see in Feminism getting taken down is MRA’s taking over the jobs, and teaching Gender studies courses with a significantly higher concentration of beards. :p