As an obese, ugly, misogynistic neckbeard who’s afraid of empowered women, lives in my mother’s basement, & can’t get laid, the claim that the Men’s Human Rights Movement (MHRM) is largely made up of people just like me, is one that I hear with startling regularity.
And, you know what? It’s true! The MHRM is mostly made up of people just like me. The only thing is that, in my opening paragraph, I told you a bit of a fib.
You see, I’m not actually a misogynist. In fact, I absolutely love working with, & speaking to, smart capable people & that includes women. I mean, seriously, who likes speaking to or working with stupid, incompetents? Nobody that I know. Also, although I could certainly stand to lose a kilo or three, I’m not obese either, I don’t live in my mother’s basement, I don’t have a neckbeard and, as for not being able to get laid, well… I’m actually married…so, yeah, that part’s true.
Named in honour of the MHRM’s nutbar of all nutbars, Peter Andrew Nolan© (no, the copyright symbol isn’t a typo), the law is as follows…
- The MHRM is remarkably diligent when it comes to policing the outliers & hateful idiots within it’s ranks, especially when they are advocating violence. That shit is just NOT tolerated anywhere, AT ALL. Although I have occasionally seen truly hateful stuff written about women by people identifying as MHRAs, I cannot recall a single example where it has gone unchallenged by another MHRA, often entire groups of MHRAs, or organisations like AVFM, & on the very rare occasions where nobody has yet called them out, I have done so myself. In addition to this, in cases where an out of line post comes to the attention of an MHRA site administrator or owner, the person is almost always instabanned. Conversely, I cannot recall a single instance of any feminist, & certainly no groups of feminists, calling out the hateful stuff that feminists say about men (& far more often I might add). I’m sure that isolated examples of each exception must exist somewhere but in the vast majority of cases, MHRAs succeed in policing their own while feminists rarely, if ever, do.
- The hateful radicals in the MHRM are anonymous nobodies that have no power within the MHRM & never will. How can I be sure of this I hear you ask? Easy, because no one will follow them & you need followers to be a leader. The only hateful nut job with any followers at all (& even then its a mere handful), is the infamous Peter Nolan himself & that is almost certainly due to his “World Citizen” pipe dream & not for his men’s rights activism (such that it is). Conversely, in feminism the hateful radicals ARE the leaders. Sure, some anonymous loser calling himself “Kingoftheuniverse2496” may leave a comment on YouTube saying all women are heartless gold digging bitches but that’s nothing compared to the truly disgusting stuff that has been said by prominent feminists like Catherine Comins, Andrea Dworkin or, even worse because it has a direct real world negative impact on the lives of millions of men, by feminist institutions like NOW. And, of course, you only have to take a peek at the Agent Orange files to see how unbelievably hateful some prominent feminists are when they think they are speaking to other feminists in private. Yet where is the feminist outrage about those people? MIA, presumed dead, it would seem.
The validity of this is easy to demonstrate. If we could somehow eliminate all the extremist haters from both the MHRM & feminism in one fell swoop, what would the two movements look like afterwards?
The MHRM would be essentially unchanged. Nobody would notice, or miss, the nutbars & our goals, methods, & even our membership numbers, would remain practically unaffected. Feminism, on the other hand, would completely collapse. The feminists saying this hateful stuff ARE the leaders, they ARE the people who are actively involved in making, or at least heavily influencing, public opinion & government policy. They run the big feminist advocacy groups & the DV & Rape Prevention organisations. They are politicians, authors, lecturers at prestigious universities. One of them, Hillary Clinton, is even likely to be the next U.S. President! In short they, unlike the “Kingoftheuniverse2496″s of the world, matter. Lose those people & feminism loses it’s stranglehold on government, the media, & the public discourse on gender issues. With those go it’s funding, the very support system that keeps it alive. Do away with the hateful feminists & feminism dies.
This is why pointing at nut jobs that call themselves MHRAs & saying “See! You do it too!” is not a valid argument. It’s a completely false equivalency.
Even so, it is critical that we keep on top of the undesirables in our ranks & continue to call them out whenever they rear their ugly heads. To this end, I urge you all to, not only challenge any hateful comments that you may come across, but to also commit the definition of The Nolan Effect to memory & to use it at every opportunity. Insert it into conversations, use it as an analogy, create memes about it, do whatever you can to spread it around, just get it out there. With any luck it will get back to Nolan himself & maybe, just maybe, he’ll decide to pull his head in & stop being a pain in our collective arses. At the very least it’ll ensure that everyone, everywhere knows that Nolan is not one of us, doesn’t speak for us, & that we oppose the stupid & hateful BS that he, & the anonymous nut jobs like him, spew.
In a world where we lack the power to control the actions of other human beings that’s all that anyone can reasonably expect from us. It is also the very least they can expect from us. Unfortunately for feminism, it is also the least we can expect of them but they have always, and still are, falling well short of that modest expectation.
If you’re an “equality” feminist that is sick and tired of being lumped in with all the hateful “radical” feminists then might I suggest that you do more to distance yourself from those people with whom you share a common label? Denouncing their hatred, loudly, publicly, & often, would be a good start. That’s what the MHRM does.
“The Nolan Effect – As the size of any movement increases, the probability of it attracting a complete nutcase approaches 1”
UPDATE; We now have this meme Thanks to Dana from AVFM
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I am familiar with most well known male and female MRAs, but don’t know Nolan, tells you the ‘but you have to admit some MRA are just as bad as radical feminists’.. avoidance of the facts presented is a red herring.
The other common one thrown out when rhe reality of the disadvantages men face are undeniable is; ‘angry and/or bitter MEN’. To which I reply that i estimate10-20% of members are women and general support is higher again. Also for any awareness and activist campaign it is normal for the people passionate about it to be those personally affected, yet you don’t see Glenn Mcgrath for breast cancer, rosie batty for DV, parents of a son killed in a car crash calling for making getting a license harder, or animal rights activists, or all the women claiming their own experience legitimises feminism being called bitter or angry as a blanket deligitimization.
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Well, I must say that it’s nice to see an obviously stable and reasonable person such as yourself making well thought out, coherent, and logical points in your comments here.
The fact that you posted in allcaps alone makes you seem especially reasonable and in no way crazy or ridiculously hyperbolic at all.
Well done you!
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Nolan wouldn’t even sign a petition to Obama to pardon David Bedoya: https://www.facebook.com/groups/freedavidbedoya/
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I agree with this article.
For every radical like this, we need to point out how we don’t let them anywhere near a place where they can have power or a say in the rest of the movement. And we need to point for every one radical like him who claims to be part of the MHRM, (who is not in a place of power or a voice of the full movement,) we need to point to at least three or more radical feminists who ARE in a position of power, or have influence in the feminist movement and organizations (and list the ways they are radical, as they will use his radical tenets to argue against us.)
I can vouch for PN’s hateful and insane personality myself. I’ve had the misfortune of engaging in dialogue with him on youtube. Now I’m no saint by any standard, but I had to challenge him on his very hateful statements a few times, before quickly bailing out of the conversation for fear of contributing more to his maniacal delusions. He has vile ideas no one in their right mind would want to see actioned. He also feeds on disagreement, so ignoring him is the best way to get rid of him on forums. He is one very disturbed individual, avoid if possible.
Oh yeah, we are right there with you on that one.
My fervent wish is that he would simply just dry up & blow away, never to be heard from again. He single handedly damages the reputation of the MHRM more than every other fruitcake & nut bar out there combined.